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1965 IBANEZ 425 HOLLOWBODY & 2 LAWSUIT PAULAS

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This site is about the

Ibanez 425 hollowbody

model only


See my Lawsauit

Ibanez Les Paul copies

right

here!

 

My Lawsuit Black Beauty from the early 70s. Click to enlarge
My Lawsuit Black Beauty from the early 70s. Click to enlarge
Lawsuit blonde (and out of fokus)
Lawsuit blonde (and out of fokus)
1965 Ibanez 425 model. click to enlarge
1965 Ibanez 425 model. click to enlarge

 

How I found this guitar

is a weird story of a crazy coincidence.

 

I was very ill. Flu.

My wive and little kids were very ill, too.

It was hell. Everything hurt.

All the nasty stuff came out of every hole all the time.

 

 

I went to see my doctor and passed by a newsstand. I saw a mag called "dreams guitars" or "vintage dreams " or something ...

 

I decided NOT to buy it yet because I felt that sitting in the doctor`s waiting room with this "guitar porn mag" would be kind of embarrassing ...

 

So I came back to the newsstand later,

after I had seen the doctor and bought the mag.

The shop assistant was chatting with a customer. When this elderly lady saw the mag that I was buying she pointed at the Gretsch Chet Atkins guitar on the cover and said to me: "I still have two of these in my basement".

 

Get it? If I had bought the mag already before I went to the doctor I would have never met this lady!

This proves that beeing ill, shy and embarrassed can be a darn good thing!

 

And I said:

 

 

 

 

"What?"

 

and:

"Guitars like these? Do you wanna sell them?"

 

And so she invited me to follow her to her basement ( she could have been my mother, dude!) at once since she lived in the house right next to the newsstand. 

 

There were two used vintage guitars

in that lady`s basement

and I bought them at once.


(Then after some days of research I went back and gave her some more money. )

Framus Missouri, early 70s, everything stock, original and working well.
Framus Missouri, early 70s, everything stock, original and working well.

The first one was this

Framus Missouri

 

Read more about it

here

One of the rarest early Ibanez hollowbodies. Ibanez 425 from 1965. click to enlarge
One of the rarest early Ibanez hollowbodies. Ibanez 425 from 1965. click to enlarge

The other one was this

Ibanez 425

hollowbody.

 

The thing was so consequently hollow that even the pickups and pots were missing.

 


beautiful sunburst and binding but strange how untidy these pickup holes were cut. click to enlarge
beautiful sunburst and binding but strange how untidy these pickup holes were cut. click to enlarge


It took over 10 years and a lot of Ebay searches

to find the most important missing parts.


Vintage Ibanz catalog from 1965. click to enlarge.
Vintage Ibanz catalog from 1965. click to enlarge.
There she is. One of the very few photos in the internet.click to enlarge
There she is. One of the very few photos in the internet.click to enlarge

 

It was / is nearly impossible

to find information about this guitar.

 

I know of only four other guys who own an Ibanez 425.

They sent me fotos of their guitars so that I could see what exactly I have to search for ...

Thanks Hasy, Mike, Peter and Rashid!

 

 

Mike`s 425 has the same binding as mine... Hasy`s guitar (below) has a more sophisticated one... Click to enlarge
Mike`s 425 has the same binding as mine... Hasy`s guitar (below) has a more sophisticated one... Click to enlarge
Hasy`s Ibanez 425. I have absolutely no hope as far as my missing pickguard is concerned. I`ll never find one. So I hope to find a big enough "Teisco" pickguard made from the same material and then cut  this shape out of it. Click to enlarge
Hasy`s Ibanez 425. I have absolutely no hope as far as my missing pickguard is concerned. I`ll never find one. So I hope to find a big enough "Teisco" pickguard made from the same material and then cut this shape out of it. Click to enlarge
I bought this vintage "Teisco" pickguard in order to get the right electronics (2 volumes, one tone and the jack) Also the pickguard material is exactly what I need and the pickups are the right ones too ...except for the missing pickup rings.
I bought this vintage "Teisco" pickguard in order to get the right electronics (2 volumes, one tone and the jack) Also the pickguard material is exactly what I need and the pickups are the right ones too ...except for the missing pickup rings.
It is really absolutely no problem to find these pickups if you search for "Teisco". But nearly impossible to find these extremely rare pickup rings! It took 10 years of Ebay search to find this one!
It is really absolutely no problem to find these pickups if you search for "Teisco". But nearly impossible to find these extremely rare pickup rings! It took 10 years of Ebay search to find this one!
... it happened on my 48th birthday! What a miracle!  ...and within one week ...
... it happened on my 48th birthday! What a miracle! ...and within one week ...
... I found two more of them! Pretty strange after 10 years without a trace. (The pickguard blank underneath is a vintage German NOS piece. Not the right stuff for my Ibanez restauration project.)
... I found two more of them! Pretty strange after 10 years without a trace. (The pickguard blank underneath is a vintage German NOS piece. Not the right stuff for my Ibanez restauration project.)
Beautiful details from Mike`s Ibanez 425.  The rusty pickups and screws, the yellowed fretboard binding curving around the protruding fretend and the pickguard material. Click to enlarge
Beautiful details from Mike`s Ibanez 425. The rusty pickups and screws, the yellowed fretboard binding curving around the protruding fretend and the pickguard material. Click to enlarge
These knobs on Hasy`s Ibanez 425 can be found once in a while. Search for "Teisco". They exist in black, gold, amber, white ...
These knobs on Hasy`s Ibanez 425 can be found once in a while. Search for "Teisco". They exist in black, gold, amber, white ...
Mike`s Ibanez 425 is the only one I know of that is in perfect original state. These pot knobs here are the holy grail of knobs. Impossible to find. Click to enlarge
Mike`s Ibanez 425 is the only one I know of that is in perfect original state. These pot knobs here are the holy grail of knobs. Impossible to find. Click to enlarge
The original pot knobs on a Ibanez 430. Never saw them on ebay in more than 10 years. Unfortunately not my guitar and unfortunately this photo is so small
The original pot knobs on a Ibanez 430. Never saw them on ebay in more than 10 years. Unfortunately not my guitar and unfortunately this photo is so small
the sister model 430 ...
the sister model 430 ...
the doublecut sister Ibanez 482 has the same super.rare pickup rings.
the doublecut sister Ibanez 482 has the same super.rare pickup rings.
set maple neck. Click to enlarge
set maple neck. Click to enlarge
The fretboard inlays are very thin and worn off. Dots at the 12th and blocks for the rest. Click to enlarge
The fretboard inlays are very thin and worn off. Dots at the 12th and blocks for the rest. Click to enlarge
Mike`s ... super clean fretboard inlays.I wonder what wood that fretboard is. It can`t be rosewood. Click to enlarge
Mike`s ... super clean fretboard inlays.I wonder what wood that fretboard is. It can`t be rosewood. Click to enlarge
Typical for vintage Ibanez guitars like mine: Some come without the logo ...
Typical for vintage Ibanez guitars like mine: Some come without the logo ...
...some come with it. Hasy`s Ibanez has it.
...some come with it. Hasy`s Ibanez has it.
Mike`s 425 has no logo either.
Mike`s 425 has no logo either.
I found this vintage Ibanez neck in Canada und bought it just in order to get the Ibanez logo. Funny that the Inlay corresponds to the one of the 425 model.
I found this vintage Ibanez neck in Canada und bought it just in order to get the Ibanez logo. Funny that the Inlay corresponds to the one of the 425 model.
Nails, not screws!
Nails, not screws!
the notorious "steel reinforced neck" sticker that almost every Japanese guitar from the 60s and early 70s has. No idea if this trussrod is adjustable
the notorious "steel reinforced neck" sticker that almost every Japanese guitar from the 60s and early 70s has. No idea if this trussrod is adjustable
Hasy`s 425. The dots look like they were retrofitted... you can see that there were blocks first that were worn off. Then someone glued the dots on.
Hasy`s 425. The dots look like they were retrofitted... you can see that there were blocks first that were worn off. Then someone glued the dots on.
Hasy`s guitar again. It has a different pot layout and more beautiful binding than Mike`s and my Ibanez 425. Click to enlarge
Hasy`s guitar again. It has a different pot layout and more beautiful binding than Mike`s and my Ibanez 425. Click to enlarge
Mike`s 425. Exactly like the one in the 1965 catalog! The only one worldwide I know of. Click to enlarge
Mike`s 425. Exactly like the one in the 1965 catalog! The only one worldwide I know of. Click to enlarge
Ibanez 425 "refinished". Peter from Australia sent me fotos of this very rare beast. Bridge and tuners and maybe the tailpiece seem not to be original. Pickguard missing. Same Knob positions like mine, same binding.
Ibanez 425 "refinished". Peter from Australia sent me fotos of this very rare beast. Bridge and tuners and maybe the tailpiece seem not to be original. Pickguard missing. Same Knob positions like mine, same binding.
these super-super rare pickup rings are original and as rare as the pot knob rings... What was the logo on the headstock?
these super-super rare pickup rings are original and as rare as the pot knob rings... What was the logo on the headstock?
Rashid owns the 5th Ibanez 425 model I ever heard of. He sent me these details: The knob rings I am still desperately looking for. They are sooooooooo rare...
Rashid owns the 5th Ibanez 425 model I ever heard of. He sent me these details: The knob rings I am still desperately looking for. They are sooooooooo rare...
Who sells me three of these? Thanks Rashid!
Who sells me three of these? Thanks Rashid!
Rashid`s Ibanez 425 guitar from 1965. Amazing! Nothing missing. Different bridge, no Ibanez logo, different pickguard material, different fretboard inlays ... like the Ibanez 420-T model.
Rashid`s Ibanez 425 guitar from 1965. Amazing! Nothing missing. Different bridge, no Ibanez logo, different pickguard material, different fretboard inlays ... like the Ibanez 420-T model.
Rashid`s 425 with the 420-T model neck and headstock: Fancy binding and a trussrod cover that the other 4 sister models don`t have.
Rashid`s 425 with the 420-T model neck and headstock: Fancy binding and a trussrod cover that the other 4 sister models don`t have.
Check out the different tuning keys...round instead of angular like all the others... What happened?
Check out the different tuning keys...round instead of angular like all the others... What happened?
Rashid`s model must have been the most expensive one ...
Rashid`s model must have been the most expensive one ...
Checkerboard binding... very cool! Thanks for the fotos Rashid!
Checkerboard binding... very cool! Thanks for the fotos Rashid!
This gentleman in Mike`s guitar case has been protecting his rare 50-year-old instrument wholeheartedly. Is the case original too?  Click to enlarge Jesus.
This gentleman in Mike`s guitar case has been protecting his rare 50-year-old instrument wholeheartedly. Is the case original too? Click to enlarge Jesus.
one more from down under. Almost immaculate after 55 years. Mark`s 425.
one more from down under. Almost immaculate after 55 years. Mark`s 425.
425 from 1965, owner Mark`s year of birth (and mine, too).
425 from 1965, owner Mark`s year of birth (and mine, too).
...beautiful binding on Mark`s guitar.
...beautiful binding on Mark`s guitar.
tuners are not original... if someone finds the originals please contact us...
tuners are not original... if someone finds the originals please contact us...
the original tuners on my 425 ... they suffered ...
the original tuners on my 425 ... they suffered ...
bling, almost like new. These rare parts are 55 years old!
bling, almost like new. These rare parts are 55 years old!
one bushing missing on the d-string tuner... Where can we get a spare one from? Note the wear of the fretboard inlays. I like to see that the guitar has been played a lot!
one bushing missing on the d-string tuner... Where can we get a spare one from? Note the wear of the fretboard inlays. I like to see that the guitar has been played a lot!
beautiful burst!
beautiful burst!
the neck pickup volume knob surely is not original. It will be replaced  soon by the real thing. But what about the aluminum bridge? Origianl or not? Mark has had it since 1976 ...
the neck pickup volume knob surely is not original. It will be replaced soon by the real thing. But what about the aluminum bridge? Origianl or not? Mark has had it since 1976 ...
these knobs can be found on many, many Japanese guitars. Search for "Teisco". They exist in black, white, silver and gold.
these knobs can be found on many, many Japanese guitars. Search for "Teisco". They exist in black, white, silver and gold.
... Mark`s 425 again. Like Rashid`s blonde 425 guitar (above) it has an aluminum bridge. We are not sure if it is original or not ...
... Mark`s 425 again. Like Rashid`s blonde 425 guitar (above) it has an aluminum bridge. We are not sure if it is original or not ...
another beautiful Ibanez 425 from Belgium, thanks Manuel!
another beautiful Ibanez 425 from Belgium, thanks Manuel!
knob layout in a line ... unlike some other 425 models
knob layout in a line ... unlike some other 425 models
the cheryy red is still very strong... after 55 years!
the cheryy red is still very strong... after 55 years!
the rarest pickup rings in the guitar biz?
the rarest pickup rings in the guitar biz?
worn inlays. the were made too thin for 50+ years of shredding and noodeling...
worn inlays. the were made too thin for 50+ years of shredding and noodeling...
... that beautiful binding!
... that beautiful binding!
Spent 10 years in a shipping container full of junk: Dan`s beauty from Australia! Wow, what a great find! Some pre-owner played a lot in the key of B and E on the seventh fret.
Spent 10 years in a shipping container full of junk: Dan`s beauty from Australia! Wow, what a great find! Some pre-owner played a lot in the key of B and E on the seventh fret.
Looks like everything is original and perfectly working! Nice binding!
Looks like everything is original and perfectly working! Nice binding!
"It plays very nicely and sounds quite good too, it almost has a banjo type twang to it." says its owner Dan.
"It plays very nicely and sounds quite good too, it almost has a banjo type twang to it." says its owner Dan.
one of two types of knobs that came stock.
one of two types of knobs that came stock.
"The tremolo bar is amazing." you can be glad that it is still around ...I wish I had mine. Not the first 425 that comes with this aluminum bridge. Others have a wooden bride.
"The tremolo bar is amazing." you can be glad that it is still around ...I wish I had mine. Not the first 425 that comes with this aluminum bridge. Others have a wooden bride.
Like many of theses guitars there is no logo on the headstock but it is an Ibanez 425 model ...
Like many of theses guitars there is no logo on the headstock but it is an Ibanez 425 model ...
The sticker inside, ‘Barclay Guitars’ refers to an Australian distributor who imported Japanese guitars in the 60s and 70s.
The sticker inside, ‘Barclay Guitars’ refers to an Australian distributor who imported Japanese guitars in the 60s and 70s.
...and the model number is the same as the original Ibanez model number.
...and the model number is the same as the original Ibanez model number.

Thanks again to Hasy, Mike, Peter, Mark, Rashid, Manuel and Dan!

for your support and the photos of your beautifu

Ibanez 425

hollowbodies!

 

If there is someone out there with another one

please contact me!

 

 

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